Comments on: Have you spied a Birdie in Funnell’s Wood? http://www.funnell.org/archives/have-you-spied-a-birdie-in-funnell%e2%80%99s-wood/ Family trees and fallen leaves Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:00:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Andy http://www.funnell.org/archives/have-you-spied-a-birdie-in-funnell%e2%80%99s-wood/comment-page-1/#comment-280 Andy Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:33:41 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/?p=48#comment-280 Wow! Now, that's a comeback. Welcome home, Wendy! Wow! Now, that’s a comeback.
Welcome home, Wendy!

]]> By: Wendy http://www.funnell.org/archives/have-you-spied-a-birdie-in-funnell%e2%80%99s-wood/comment-page-1/#comment-277 Wendy Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:46:03 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/?p=48#comment-277 In order not to lead Viv along the wrong branch - Rosina Ann Funnell is not the Rosina married to John Funnell on the 1901 Census. This is Rosina Elvina Turner married 1895 Dec qtr Brighton ref 2b 432. Not sure on a marriage for Rosina Ann - however - a Rosina A. Funnell did marry a James Longhurst 1919 June qtr Lewisham ref 1d 2457 but this would make Rosina 47 - quite possible since I can't find a death for her as a Funnell. Alfred's older brothers not mentioned may have been Charles bap 2 Jan 1816 St. Nicholas, Brighton and John bap 22 March 1818 also at St Nicholas' Church - parents are Charles/Eleanor Funnell - source IGI. On closer inspection of the Census Return 1841 Nemiah Funnell aged 10 actually reads as Harriet - Ancestry doesn't always transcibe accurately! Hope this helps Wendy Russell nee Funnell - back from the great beyond! In order not to lead Viv along the wrong branch -
Rosina Ann Funnell is not the Rosina married to John Funnell on the 1901 Census. This is Rosina Elvina Turner married 1895 Dec qtr Brighton ref 2b 432.
Not sure on a marriage for Rosina Ann – however – a Rosina A. Funnell did marry a James Longhurst 1919 June qtr Lewisham ref 1d 2457 but this would make Rosina 47 – quite possible since I can’t find a death for her as a Funnell.
Alfred’s older brothers not mentioned may have been Charles bap 2 Jan 1816 St. Nicholas, Brighton and John bap 22 March 1818 also at St Nicholas’ Church – parents are Charles/Eleanor Funnell – source IGI.
On closer inspection of the Census Return 1841 Nemiah Funnell aged 10 actually reads as Harriet – Ancestry doesn’t always transcibe accurately!
Hope this helps
Wendy Russell nee Funnell – back from the great beyond!

]]> By: Andy http://www.funnell.org/archives/have-you-spied-a-birdie-in-funnell%e2%80%99s-wood/comment-page-1/#comment-272 Andy Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:48:35 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/?p=48#comment-272 Can’t make your Birdie fly but I have some info on Mary Jane and her family. Her parent’s marriage is registered in the June quarter 1859 at Portsea, 2b 638, Alfred Funnell and Fanny Thorpe. There is a birth and death registered for an Alfred James Funnell in the first quarter of 1860 at Portsea Island (2b 273 and 2b 399) which could be an unfortunate first child. The 1861 census information shows this family at 2, Pafoots Court, Portsea with Mary Jane Funnell (5 months), Ellen (3) and Fanny Thorpe (6), probably two illegitimate daughters. Alfred is a bootmaker born in Brighton. Frances (Fanny) a seamstress born in Chichester. Class RG9 Piece 636 Folio 105 GSU 542675 In 1871, the family is back in Brighton at 16, Frederick Street. Alfred’s occupation is given as Cordwainer. Mary Jane is 11. Also listed are Emily (8), Elizabeth (6), Alice (4) and Kate (1). RG10 Piece 1082 Folio 128 Page 7 GSU 827499 In ten years, 3 more daughters are born: The 1881 census lists Rosina (9), Minni (7) and Charlina (2) plus Kate (11) living with parents at 52 Viaduct Road, Brighton (civil parish of Preston, district Steyning). Alfred is a Bootmaker again. Frances and Alfred are both said to be 46. RG11 Piece 1100 Folio 35 Page 8 GSU 1341259 Rosina is a domestic servant to the Bourdas family of Streatham, Clapham Common in 1891* and married to John Funnell in 1901*, son of Joseph J. from Brighton. (* Census info only) In 1891, Alfred (55) and Frances (54) are living at 3 Fountain Street, Streatham. Alfred is listed as a Cordwainer. RG12 Piece 459 Folio 83 Page 5 GSU 6095569 It’s interesting to note that this address is not too far from at least 2 daughters. Alfred first appears in the 1841 census, aged 7 living at 4, Boyce’s Street, Brighthelmstone (now Brighton). His parents are Charles Funnell, 48, Shoemaker, and Elenor, 46, (sometimes Ellen or Helen). Amongst their children are Edward (19), George (16), James (14), Sarah (12), Nemiah (10), Mary (8) and William (3). Class HO107 Piece 1122 Book 3 Enumeration district 4 Folio 29 Page 5 Line 21, GSU 464166 The gap between the father’s age and the eldest child suggests there may be elder siblings who have left home. A possible marriage is Charles Funnell and Helen Haselgrove, Brighton, 24th October 1814 (Sussex Marriage Index). In 1851, the family is living at 7, South Street, Brighthelmstone. Charles and Elenor are aged respectively 56 and 54. Alfred is 15, a shoemaker living with parents and siblings Mary and William. HO 107 Piece 1646 Folio 117 Page 49 GSU 193551 In 1861, Charles and Ellen are 2, Kent Street, Brighton with daughter Sarah (31). Charles is still listed listed “boot and shoe maker”. RG9 Piece 600 Folio 9 Page 11 GSU 542669 In 1871, only Charles (80) and Sarah (40), “housekeeper” are left at this address. RG10 Piece 1086 Folio 35 Page 20 GSU 827501 You will have guessed by now that Alfred’s elder brother, Edward Funnell, made the world’s smallest watch (<a href="http://www.funnell.org/archives/edward-funnell-made-the-worlds-smallest-watch/" rel="nofollow">see story</a>). Unfortunately, the 1841 census only gave “Sussex” as the birthplace for Charles and Elenor. Anyone ? Can’t make your Birdie fly but I have some info on Mary Jane and her family.
Her parent’s marriage is registered in the June quarter 1859 at Portsea, 2b 638, Alfred Funnell and Fanny Thorpe. There is a birth and death registered for an Alfred James Funnell in the first quarter of 1860 at Portsea Island (2b 273 and 2b 399) which could be an unfortunate first child.

The 1861 census information shows this family at 2, Pafoots Court, Portsea with Mary Jane Funnell (5 months), Ellen (3) and Fanny Thorpe (6), probably two illegitimate daughters. Alfred is a bootmaker born in Brighton. Frances (Fanny) a seamstress born in Chichester.
Class RG9 Piece 636 Folio 105 GSU 542675

In 1871, the family is back in Brighton at 16, Frederick Street. Alfred’s occupation is given as Cordwainer. Mary Jane is 11. Also listed are Emily (8), Elizabeth (6), Alice (4) and Kate (1).
RG10 Piece 1082 Folio 128 Page 7 GSU 827499

In ten years, 3 more daughters are born: The 1881 census lists Rosina (9), Minni (7) and Charlina (2) plus Kate (11) living with parents at 52 Viaduct Road, Brighton (civil parish of Preston, district Steyning). Alfred is a Bootmaker again. Frances and Alfred are both said to be 46.
RG11 Piece 1100 Folio 35 Page 8 GSU 1341259

Rosina is a domestic servant to the Bourdas family of Streatham, Clapham Common in 1891* and married to John Funnell in 1901*, son of Joseph J. from Brighton. (* Census info only)

In 1891, Alfred (55) and Frances (54) are living at 3 Fountain Street, Streatham. Alfred is listed as a Cordwainer.
RG12 Piece 459 Folio 83 Page 5 GSU 6095569
It’s interesting to note that this address is not too far from at least 2 daughters.

Alfred first appears in the 1841 census, aged 7 living at 4, Boyce’s Street, Brighthelmstone (now Brighton). His parents are Charles Funnell, 48, Shoemaker, and Elenor, 46, (sometimes Ellen or Helen). Amongst their children are Edward (19), George (16), James (14), Sarah (12), Nemiah (10), Mary (8) and William (3).
Class HO107 Piece 1122 Book 3 Enumeration district 4 Folio 29 Page 5 Line 21, GSU 464166

The gap between the father’s age and the eldest child suggests there may be elder siblings who have left home. A possible marriage is Charles Funnell and Helen Haselgrove, Brighton, 24th October 1814 (Sussex Marriage Index).

In 1851, the family is living at 7, South Street, Brighthelmstone. Charles and Elenor are aged respectively 56 and 54. Alfred is 15, a shoemaker living with parents and siblings Mary and William.
HO 107 Piece 1646 Folio 117 Page 49 GSU 193551

In 1861, Charles and Ellen are 2, Kent Street, Brighton with daughter Sarah (31). Charles is still listed listed “boot and shoe maker”.
RG9 Piece 600 Folio 9 Page 11 GSU 542669

In 1871, only Charles (80) and Sarah (40), “housekeeper” are left at this address.
RG10 Piece 1086 Folio 35 Page 20 GSU 827501

You will have guessed by now that Alfred’s elder brother, Edward Funnell, made the world’s smallest watch (see story).

Unfortunately, the 1841 census only gave “Sussex” as the birthplace for Charles and Elenor. Anyone ?

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