Comments on: WW1: 4 Funnells killed, same day, same place http://www.funnell.org/archives/ww1-4-funnells-killed-same-day-same-place/ Family trees and fallen leaves Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:21:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Andy http://www.funnell.org/archives/ww1-4-funnells-killed-same-day-same-place/comment-page-1/#comment-24073 Andy Fri, 06 Jan 2012 06:38:36 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/archives/14#comment-24073 @Andy Saunders I've forwarded your comment to Jenny. @Andy Saunders
I’ve forwarded your comment to Jenny.

]]> By: Andy Saunders http://www.funnell.org/archives/ww1-4-funnells-killed-same-day-same-place/comment-page-1/#comment-24039 Andy Saunders Thu, 05 Jan 2012 22:13:50 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/archives/14#comment-24039 Hi Jenny! I don't suppose you will see this in time, but if you do can you get in touch urgently? I am involved with a short BBC documentary being made on the subject of the loss of HMS Hythe, the Southborough victims and Captain Salomons. However, we are especially interested in the story of the Funnell boys lost in the tragedy. Whilst we already have a great deal of interesting material we would love to hear from you urgently if you get to see this! You can contact me again through this site, or else feel free to call me on 01424 753356. Thank you! Andy Saunders Hi Jenny!

I don’t suppose you will see this in time, but if you do can you get in touch urgently?

I am involved with a short BBC documentary being made on the subject of the loss of HMS Hythe, the Southborough victims and Captain Salomons. However, we are especially interested in the story of the Funnell boys lost in the tragedy.

Whilst we already have a great deal of interesting material we would love to hear from you urgently if you get to see this!

You can contact me again through this site, or else feel free to call me on 01424 753356.

Thank you!

Andy Saunders

]]> By: Jenny Lewis http://www.funnell.org/archives/ww1-4-funnells-killed-same-day-same-place/comment-page-1/#comment-10154 Jenny Lewis Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:42:53 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/archives/14#comment-10154 Thanks for the picture of the memorial. Frank Funnell was my Grandmother's brother (although she was born after his death). William was his first cousin and brothers Harry and Alfred were his second cousins. As far as I can see, it was a close family where they usually lived only a few doors apart. A further 3 close members of the family died in the Great War. Today is the 95th anniversary of the sinking. I have laid flowers at Southborough, Tunbridge Wells and Rusthall war memorials where Frank, Harry and William are remembered. Sadly, St Mathew's church, home of the big marble plaque which to my knowledge is the only place Alfred is remembered, is closed on Thursdays so I was unable to leave a cross for them today. They are remembered by their families. A further note, Penfold's book is great as an anecdotal source, having been compiled from interviews with survivors, but it's factual content is pretty erroneous. For starters, the casualty list includes misspellings, wrong initials and is missing some names. Secondly Frank Funnell is mentioned twice, the first time as 'Frank Fuller' and the second as 'Fred Funnell'. I recommend Judith Johnson's 'Southborough War Memorial' for those commemorated in the town and Frank Stevens 'Southborough Sappers.......' for the Hythe boys. Both have pictures and details. Thanks, Jenny Thanks for the picture of the memorial. Frank Funnell was my Grandmother’s brother (although she was born after his death). William was his first cousin and brothers Harry and Alfred were his second cousins. As far as I can see, it was a close family where they usually lived only a few doors apart. A further 3 close members of the family died in the Great War.
Today is the 95th anniversary of the sinking. I have laid flowers at Southborough, Tunbridge Wells and Rusthall war memorials where Frank, Harry and William are remembered. Sadly, St Mathew’s church, home of the big marble plaque which to my knowledge is the only place Alfred is remembered, is closed on Thursdays so I was unable to leave a cross for them today. They are remembered by their families.
A further note, Penfold’s book is great as an anecdotal source, having been compiled from interviews with survivors, but it’s factual content is pretty erroneous. For starters, the casualty list includes misspellings, wrong initials and is missing some names. Secondly Frank Funnell is mentioned twice, the first time as ‘Frank Fuller’ and the second as ‘Fred Funnell’. I recommend Judith Johnson’s ‘Southborough War Memorial’ for those commemorated in the town and Frank Stevens ‘Southborough Sappers…….’ for the Hythe boys. Both have pictures and details.
Thanks,
Jenny

]]> By: James Castle http://www.funnell.org/archives/ww1-4-funnells-killed-same-day-same-place/comment-page-1/#comment-888 James Castle Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:00:09 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/archives/14#comment-888 Dear Andy Thank you for your reply I don't know where you live but in T Wells library there is a book on the Hythe, "The unfinished journey" by Michael J Penfold that is worth a read. You will have to ask for it at the counter as it is kept in a back room. Also look on the microfilm of the Courier for 12 Nov 1915 as this has quite a spread on the disaster including photos of many of the casualties. I think there are also some in subsequent issues in 1915. Probably also worth a look in the Advertiser and Gazette. Best wishes James Dear Andy
Thank you for your reply
I don’t know where you live but in T Wells library there is a book on the Hythe, “The unfinished journey” by Michael J Penfold that is worth a read. You will have to ask for it at the counter as it is kept in a back room.
Also look on the microfilm of the Courier for 12 Nov 1915 as this has quite a spread on the disaster including photos of many of the casualties. I think there are also some in subsequent issues in 1915. Probably also worth a look in the Advertiser and Gazette.
Best wishes
James

]]> By: Andy http://www.funnell.org/archives/ww1-4-funnells-killed-same-day-same-place/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Andy Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:01:29 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/archives/14#comment-41 I'm afraid not, James. If you haven't already found this information, I suggest you create a user account on the Great War Forums (you need it to view the attachments): http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php? There is a list of names figuring in a book on the HMS Hythe disaster here: http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=14415 Ewbert John Shelley is amongst them. If you post a message, someone might be able to give you more details or the photo you're looking for. Just for the record, a lot of my information stemmed from this forum (including the photos) or Wikipedia (Cape Helles). Sorry I can't be of more help, Andy I’m afraid not, James.
If you haven’t already found this information, I suggest you create a user account on the Great War Forums (you need it to view the attachments):
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?
There is a list of names figuring in a book on the HMS Hythe disaster here:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=14415
Ewbert John Shelley is amongst them.
If you post a message, someone might be able to give you more details or the photo you’re looking for.
Just for the record, a lot of my information stemmed from this forum (including the photos) or Wikipedia (Cape Helles).
Sorry I can’t be of more help,
Andy

]]> By: James Castle http://www.funnell.org/archives/ww1-4-funnells-killed-same-day-same-place/comment-page-1/#comment-40 James Castle Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:41:49 +0000 http://www.funnell.org/archives/14#comment-40 I am doing some research on my local village war memorial and was amazed to find your information on HMS Hythe. There are two men from my village who were lost on the Hythe. Ernest Vaughan and Ewbert Shelly (listed on our memorial as SPr J (Jack) Shelley). The top photo on your page shows the name of Ernest Vaughan. Do you by any chance have a photo of the Helles Memorial showing the name of Sapper Shelley? If you do not, do you know anyone who might? Yours hopefully James Castle I am doing some research on my local village war memorial and was amazed to find your information on HMS Hythe. There are two men from my village who were lost on the Hythe. Ernest Vaughan and Ewbert Shelly (listed on our memorial as SPr J (Jack) Shelley). The top photo on your page shows the name of Ernest Vaughan. Do you by any chance have a photo of the Helles Memorial showing the name of Sapper Shelley?
If you do not, do you know anyone who might?
Yours hopefully
James Castle

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